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Short term, the DNC media always win. Again, if we get a turn for the better on the budget out of all this, those polls will flip, dramatically. Now. that's a big if, and I make no predictions. (Predicting the future is a lot trickier than predicting the past, as any stock trader knows...!) So, it's a gamble, but making progress usually requires that. When you get losing hand after losing hand, a gamble outside the norm is justified, instead of continuing the guaranteed losses.

We'll see how it plays out. PS -- I was thinking of 95-96. And you're right, no amount of explaining changed the false narrative. But times have changed. Back then people generally did not despise government as a strong consensus does now; there is a prevailing sense that something has to give.

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Well, I won't disagree that McCarthy gave the Gaetz crowd almost everything they said they wanted, and they should have grabbed it and declared victory. Nor was McCarthy wrong to respond with a CR while they worked out a different agreement if he wanted to avoid a "shutdown"; at that point he had no choice.

In the longer run, though, our dysfunctional budget process had to be reformed. This might be the catalyst, and if so, it was all to the good. Too soon to know.

The whole fear of a "shutdown", however, is manufactured panic mode. It means 87% of government still continues, including transfer payments. Only "non-essential" employees are sent home, but they will still collect back pay when they return. Is there any other business that operates like that? And if they're not essential why should they return? If it were up to me, I'd risk that sort of "shutdown". The pattern of always blaming Republicans, regardless of whether they're in the executive or legislative branch, has to be broken -- and this would have been an ideal opportunity to educate voters on the unsustainability of a budget process that extends our current spending spiral.

I'm still not convinced the Rs lost support over this, and they may have gained. People on all sides of politics are deeply unhappy with government and both parties. Business as usual is a vote killer. Here was a contrary move. Again, if that results in a budget of specific appropriations, as opposed to an omnibus passed without anyone reading it, it will be a net plus.

Btw -- my views on this budget process are not formed by any "spin" from any crowd -- these thoughts are consistent with (though on specifics not identical to) my views ever since the Clinton years. Nor am I blind to contrary views, like yours. On balance, here is where I come down. And the specifics may change with time and circumstance. If this proves to be a disaster for the country, I will admit I was wrong.

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